Bush Drinking Again? Downs "Pisco Sour" In Peru

While non-alcoholic beer contains a small amount of alcohol, the amount is negligible to the point that one would have to literally consume a case of it to get the effects of a SINGLE BEER! As to your contention that recovering alcoholics do not drink non-alcoholic been, I would agree that those young in recovery may be flirting with trouble, but having known a lot of recovering alcoholics, including my father who had over 12 years of sobriety when he died, I can tell you that many recovering alcoholics DO drink this stuff.

My father started drinking the non-alcoholic beer in the summer after he had been sober for 2 years, as per his sponsor's recommendation that he avoid social situations involving alcohol or ANYTHING remotely resembling alcohol for at least 2 years. Since I never saw the man drink more than 2 non-alcoholic beers in a day, I think that I can safely say that he wasn't getting any "thrills" from it--he just liked the taste of a cold beer on a hot day.

As to Bush's alcohol problem, who knows--or cases, for that matter? There's a video of Bush appearing drunk at the Olympics. Whether Bush was drinking over the past 8 years, I don't much care--I just know that he sucked as president and will go down as the worst president in history.

AA is a religious cult. Alcoholics who stop drinking are not "dry", they're effectively cured. It's the only recovery group I know of that holds that people who don't drink have a "spiritual" problem. That whole "spiritual" stuff is to lure otherwise rational people into AA's real motive: expansion and recruitment. It's not a treatment program, it's a religion. And before you say it's "spiritual" you should know the courts do not agree, ruling that the distinction between "spiritual" and "religious" was essentially superfluous... a play with words:

http://orange-papers.org/orange-spirrel.html#judges

Get help, yes, but not with AA. It's success rate is so poor many argue the group causes more harm than good*. People who otherwise might be able to control their drinking or quit on their own walk away believing that they are powerless without an AA supportive "higher power". This leads them to stop trying on their own because they believe they can't succeed. "let go and let god" and "relapse is a part of recovery" are effectively pretty good instructions for suicide.

*Sources:
http://www.morerevealed.com/library/coc/chapter7.htm
http://orange-papers.org/orange-effectiveness.html

I don't agree that recovering alcoholics never drink "fake cocktails" there are certain social situations where it is perfectly within the bounds of recovery to share in a toast with a beverage that doesn't contain alcohol but is served in the same glass as others. I have always wished Bush well in his pursuit of sobriety and I don't feel it's anyone's business how he does it. I try to keep my own side of the street clean.

Are you serious? What planet do you live on?

Torturing people, lying to start illegal and unethical wars, spying on citizens, raping the environment, denying the dangers of climate change, peeing on civil rights, disemboweling the justice system, declaring war on the middle class, ignoring the poor, fighting to withhold access to decent health care...I don't think we can take much more of this guy's "decency" and "kindness." Keep packing, George.

http://gawker.com/5035885/bush-looking-drunk-at-the-olympics

check out the last photo at the end....

It's ironic that a lot of his supporters liked him as a guy to have a beer with. Most truly recovering alcoholics are humble in their struggle for sobriety, and most would never risk claiming to be cured. In contrast, Bush seems to be classic addict badly acting out the "I don't need anyone" bravura. Bush's belligerent behavior, secretive personality, "make it a joke" response to questions, and tendency to casually lie are often signs associated with an ego trapped within an addiction. It would be sad if this whole tough guy drama was a case of an alcoholic trying to trick everyone into believing he was stronger than the disease. "I'm the decider," sounds ominously like an addict refusing to admit the need for help.

It's sad because anyone who truly cared about his well-being, and ours, should have told him in the strongest terms that the disease, past or present, made this job extremely unhealthy for him and those depending on him..

I agree. If I caused as much damage in the world, I'd me drinking to obliterate my consciousness of it - maybe the hangovers and guilt that are engendered will give him some humility!

Pisco Sour is a cocktail containing Pisco (a Peruvian brandy), lemon juice, egg whites, simple syrup, and regional bitters.
Seriously, is anyone going to drink this without the brandy? Seriously.

baloney. have you even seen him the past bunch of months? slurry speech, wavering thoughts... and that scrape he had on his face? almost exact same placement as the scrape a friend of mine showed up at work with one day. when i actually asked him about it, he opened up about being on heroin. it may take years, but it WILL come out that w has been drinking these days.